{"id":5431,"date":"2016-01-21T12:55:35","date_gmt":"2016-01-21T11:55:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.puyalon.org\/es\/?p=5431"},"modified":"2021-05-19T14:01:39","modified_gmt":"2021-05-19T13:01:39","slug":"e","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/puyalon.org\/ca\/2016\/01\/21\/e\/","title":{"rendered":"\u0114"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\t\t\t\t<![CDATA[\n\n<h4><span class=\"extract-single-entry\">Veigo con espanto las reaccions que produce un simplle cartel al que l&#8217;aragon\u00e9s tiene un puesto similar al castellano. Ye normal, ista sociedat nuestra no ye fecha a tenir que compartir espacios con culturas u llenguas minorit\u00e1rias, i le costa reconoixer i fer-se a una nueva realidat, encara que nom\u00e9s seiga a un cartel d&#8217;una festa popular.<\/span><\/h4>\n\n\nPero no son istas reaccions airadas per la incllusion de l\u2019aragon\u00e9s las que, talment per esperadas, me fan m\u00e9s mal. Son ixas atras, a las que se critica la forma i no el pr\u00f3pio feit de posar l\u2019aragon\u00e9s al mismo nivel que el castellano, i tamben, per qu\u00e9 negar-lo, els coment\u00e1rios que como muixardons sallen per internet i que s\u2019ocupan de fer notar que la persona u personas que vienen de fer el cartel no saben aragon\u00e9s perque lo han escrito malament, i que a bels casos venen a dir que una palabra est\u00e1 \u201cmal\u201d i la resta est\u00e1 \u201cben\u201d. A dia d\u2019hoi, l\u2019aragon\u00e9s no tiene una grafia aceptada como norma per las institucions pa fer cartels, publlicacions u ensinyanza regllada (dende aiqu\u00ed ya tos comento que no tos molestez en fer-me arribar misivas del tipo \u201cLa mayor parte de las asociacions\u2026\/ La m\u00e9s usada en el zaguers quaranta anyos\u201d perque me\u2019n joder\u00e9 soberanament, d\u2019ellas. No pienso discutir-me con garra persona per isto). Estoi aiqu\u00ed pa habllar de l\u2019aragon\u00e9s, igual se me tiene como seiga representau, pos el probllema, el verdadero probllema que tenim, i que se mos tiene que ficar a la cabe\u00e7a, no ye la representacion grafica de la llengua aragonesa, ye que se muere, i encara no hem trobau una solucion que pueda, no ya parar iste proceso, simpllement retardar-lo.\nPer ixo cal saludar, emponder<a href=\"http:\/\/arainfo.org\/2016\/01\/e\/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-5434\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-5434 alignleft\" src=\"https:\/\/puyalon.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/hogueras.jpg\" alt=\"hogueras\" width=\"337\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/puyalon.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/hogueras.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/puyalon.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/hogueras-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/puyalon.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/hogueras-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/puyalon.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/hogueras-720x480.jpg 720w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 337px) 100vw, 337px\" \/><\/a>ar i animar el feit de poder tenir un cartel, i quiero recordar que ye un cartel oficial a una ciudat de cinquanta mil habitants, al que l\u2019aragon\u00e9s seiga present i en igualdat con la llengua que le saca terreno dia sin atro i el de m\u00e9dio. Ye una revoladeta d\u2019aire fresco entre tanta bafarada que pude a r\u00e1ncio.\nPero cal ir al caso\u00a0\u00a0 i a las criticas, ixas que divan que \u201cno est\u00e1 en fabla\u201d \u201cest\u00e1 mal escrito\u201d, \u201cen fabla se escribe con B y z\u201d. Pa la primera, la respuesta est\u00e1 cllara i curta, evidentment no est\u00e1 escrito en Fabla, est\u00e1 escrito en aragon\u00e9s, dispu\u00e9s habllarem del tema, que seiga ben u mal escrito ya ye un asunto de la segunda critica, i que en verdat mos transporta, una vez m\u00e9s, a la falta d\u2019un referent oficial que permita dir si ye ben u mal escrito un texto en un idioma que no tiene el refirme de las nuestras institucions, ye dir; la llengua privativa d\u2019Aragon no ye reconoixida ni tenida en cuenta per las personas que hem votau, sacadas bellas i honrosas excepcions a nivel municipal, i tercera: ye cierto, en Fabla se escribe con b i en z, pero la primer respuesta ye valida pa ista tercera. Criticar un texto en aragon\u00e9s per no seguir normas graficas de la Fabla ye como criticar que no se respete la grafia del bulgaro en un texto escrito en hongaro, son cosas diferents i no cal seguir per aiqu\u00ed perque ye un debate vacivo.\nComo ling\u00fcista estoi que cal dar una expllicacion al tema, i que curiosament, sacadas b i z, ye dir, la representacion grafica d\u2019uns fonemas, la unica diferi\u00e9ncia entre una i atra propuesta ye la pres\u00e9ncia de una -i- de m\u00e9s. Pa cerrar i perder la cllau sobre el tema, i como deformacion profesional, istes dias m\u2019he regirau pels manuals de ling\u00fcistica romanica que tiengo per casa, per obras de dialectologia, fonetica historica\u2026 he pasau per Coromines, Lausberg, Wartburg, Zamora Vicente, Coseriu, V\u00e1zquez Obrador, Rohlfs, Iordan &amp; Manoliu i per la topon\u00edmia i la mem\u00f3ria de la gent i dels llugars, que mos aporta una cosa cllara, la \u0115 latina en aragon\u00e9s diptonga, ye dir, ixa -i- ye\/est\u00e1 justificada per la hist\u00f3ria i ye una marca milen\u00e1ria de la nuestra llengua, i segundo, el mismo i est\u00e9ril argumento de que \u201cVicien\u201d ye un llugar i no ye un nombre (s\u00ed, la estult\u00edcia no conoixe llimites) vale pa fer notar que la antropon\u00edmia encara conserva, en llugars, casas, santos (i santas, como Sant Vicienda a Vallinisclo) la forma pr\u00f3pia: Vicient. Ixe ye el quid de la q\u00fcestion, el respeto per el que ye autentico i aragon\u00e9s d\u2019un llau u empllegar formas arbitr\u00e1riament en funcion de diferenciar-se del castellano pa crear un constructo, que a iste caso \u00f3bvia la forma hist\u00f3rica i obllida la casa i las personas de l\u2019Altoaragon. Ye m\u00e9s que triste deixar de costau endonimos i formas pr\u00f3pias que son a tocar de Uesca pa fer servir una forma que, como veyerem dispu\u00e9s, ye m\u00e9s oriental.\nAtro argumento interesant ye el de que ny\u2019hai gent que se dice \u201cBiz\u00e9n\u201d, bueno, els registros civils permiten el c\u00e1mbio de nombre i m\u2019agradaria recordar que tamben existen \u201cKevin Costner de Jes\u00fas\u201d o \u201cLuke Skywalker\u201d. Dentro de mil anyos podran dir que \u201cY\u00f3natan\u201d yera un nombre tipico de Uesca, pero pel momento, Vicient ye la forma pr\u00f3pia del llatin Vinc\u0115nti, forma de vocatiu del nombre personal Vinc\u0115ntius.\nI ya pa quasi acabar, s\u00ed, existen llugars agon \u201cVicent\u201d ye la forma autoctona, son llugars orientals de la nuestra llengua, i que curiosament han estau siempre deixaus de costau a la hora de participar en la construccion d\u2019un est\u00e1ndar comun. Manimenos, els mismos que obllidan las formas ribagor\u00e7anas se sirven d\u2019ellas pa atacar al conjunto de la llengua fent servir exonimos.\nYe triste pensar que las bases sobre las que deberia tenir l\u2019aragon\u00e9s els suyos alacez son de puro buro, i que tenim a personas que en cuenta d\u2019alegrar-se de trobar l\u2019aragon\u00e9s al puesto que le pertoca a la nuestra sociedat, s\u2019estiman m\u00e9s atacar-lo con argumentos infantils i, encara pior, que como hereders que al mirar-sen a l\u2019abuelo pllen de maladias alrodiau de toda la parentalla, s\u2019estimarian que s\u2019estase ya al cemint\u00e9rio per tal de tenir el control del patrim\u00f3nio familiar.\n\n\n<h4><a href=\"http:\/\/arainfo.org\/2016\/01\/e\/\">\u00a0ARAINFO<\/a>\u00a0 <a title=\"Entradas de CHUAN CARLOS BUENO\" href=\"http:\/\/arainfo.org\/author\/juancarllosbueno\/\" rel=\"author\">CHUAN CARLOS BUENO <\/a><\/h4>\n\n]]>\t\t<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\t\t\t\t<![CDATA[]]>\t\t<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":5434,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1540,1544],"tags":[188,1135],"class_list":["post-5431","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-opinio","category-portada-ca","tag-aragones","tag-fabla"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v22.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>\u0114 - Puyal\u00f3n de Cuchas<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/puyalon.org\/ca\/2016\/01\/21\/e\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"ca_ES\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"\u0114 - Puyal\u00f3n de Cuchas\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:url\" content=\"https:\/\/puyalon.org\/ca\/2016\/01\/21\/e\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:site_name\" content=\"Puyal\u00f3n de Cuchas\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:publisher\" content=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/puyalondecuchas\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:published_time\" content=\"2016-01-21T11:55:35+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"article:modified_time\" content=\"2021-05-19T13:01:39+00:00\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:image\" content=\"https:\/\/puyalon.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/hogueras.jpg\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:width\" content=\"1000\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:height\" content=\"667\" \/>\n\t<meta property=\"og:image:type\" content=\"image\/jpeg\" \/>\n<meta name=\"author\" content=\"Puyal\u00f3n de Cuchas\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:card\" content=\"summary_large_image\" \/>\n<meta name=\"twitter:label1\" content=\"Escrit per\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data1\" content=\"Puyal\u00f3n de Cuchas\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:label2\" content=\"Temps estimat de lectura\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"twitter:data2\" content=\"5 minuts\" \/>\n<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"yoast-schema-graph\">{\"@context\":\"https:\/\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"Article\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/puyalon.org\/ca\/2016\/01\/21\/e\/#article\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/puyalon.org\/ca\/2016\/01\/21\/e\/\"},\"author\":{\"name\":\"Puyal\u00f3n de Cuchas\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/puyalon.org\/#\/schema\/person\/1b60ac01d145c3b9cfe5cabf69641c0e\"},\"headline\":\"\u0114\",\"datePublished\":\"2016-01-21T11:55:35+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2021-05-19T13:01:39+00:00\",\"mainEntityOfPage\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/puyalon.org\/ca\/2016\/01\/21\/e\/\"},\"wordCount\":1093,\"publisher\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/puyalon.org\/#organization\"},\"keywords\":[\"Aragones\",\"Fabla\"],\"articleSection\":[\"Opini\u00f3\",\"Portada\"],\"inLanguage\":\"ca\"},{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/puyalon.org\/ca\/2016\/01\/21\/e\/\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/puyalon.org\/ca\/2016\/01\/21\/e\/\",\"name\":\"\u0114 - Puyal\u00f3n de Cuchas\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/puyalon.org\/#website\"},\"datePublished\":\"2016-01-21T11:55:35+00:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2021-05-19T13:01:39+00:00\",\"breadcrumb\":{\"@id\":\"https:\/\/puyalon.org\/ca\/2016\/01\/21\/e\/#breadcrumb\"},\"inLanguage\":\"ca\",\"potentialAction\":[{\"@type\":\"ReadAction\",\"target\":[\"https:\/\/puyalon.org\/ca\/2016\/01\/21\/e\/\"]}]},{\"@type\":\"BreadcrumbList\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/puyalon.org\/ca\/2016\/01\/21\/e\/#breadcrumb\",\"itemListElement\":[{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":1,\"name\":\"Portada\",\"item\":\"https:\/\/puyalon.org\/ca\/\"},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"position\":2,\"name\":\"\u0114\"}]},{\"@type\":\"WebSite\",\"@id\":\"https:\/\/puyalon.org\/#website\",\"url\":\"https:\/\/puyalon.org\/\",\"name\":\"Puyal\u00f3n de Cuchas\",\"description\":\"Organizaci\u00f3n politica d&#039;a cucha independentista aragonesa. 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